I decided to make that survey in order to see people's different opinions, The survey is about things you wish you leanred at college & that are related with the market or your career.
so I want everyone to tell me 5 things or more, he wished he learned at college before he starts working OR things he self-learnt by himself and he thinks that they are important for others to learn. (including technical (maybe certain technology), non-technical things)
Waiting for your comments..
17 comments:
1- Linux & Unix
2- More Design pattern
3- Analysis/Design in detail
4- Soft skills(e.g. Creative thinking , Communication ,Negotiation ,....etc.)
5- AI
6- Machine Learning
7- Statistics
8- More H/W subjects
9- Language ->French
10- Language ->Germany
More than 5 things:
> Linux
> More C++ (esp. with Services, Processes, Multi-threading, DBs, WebServices, etc.)
> COM, ATL, WTL, MFC, ...
> A dynamic language (as Ruby, Python, etc.)
> Problem Solving, Debugging Techniques, a lot of Design Patterns and Best Practices
> Advanced Javascript (LOL!!!)
> Team Collaboration, Source Control and Versioning
> HCI (Human Computer Interaction) and UX (User Experience)
> Artificial Intelligence
> Deploying, Packaging and Releasing Software (We never learned how to actually finish a project)
> Agile Methodologies, eXtreme Programming, Test-Driven Development, Peer-Programming, ...
> Non-technical Skills (Resume Writing, Self-presentation, Marketing, Sales, ... in addition to English and the Soft-skill we received in our last year, a little late, better than never)
If anything else pops in mind, I'll let u know :)
Thank you Roaa for this gr8 sharing idea :)) ..
* Web technologies as: ASP.NET & PHP .
* Programming languages: going in deep with C++ and learning Java.
* More about using Linux
* There's also sth important to know mainly for large scale companies, which is working in a Multi-tier architecture environment and building applications on the same paradigm.
* Be aware of the software life cycle phases and learn each phase with all its methodologies.
* Testing Software techniques.
* For technologies : AJAX and Cascading Style Sheets (CSS).
* Writing scripts, Java and VB.
* Deploying Softwares.
* Non-technical skills: , Presentation Skills, Team work , good Communication Skills and Time Management , also business writing techniques( Resume and Report writings).
* Good command of English is an important issue.
These are for now ... and by time any new things I learn or get to know they are imp. to learn, will add them for you ;)
1- Linux
2- ASP.NET
3- AJAX
4- java script
5- Software Engineering(in a professional manner)
6- Software Analysis (in a professional manner too..lol)
understanding the real value Software engineering
Participating in a really big projects, for example like all of our class working in one huge project, facing all the integration problems
history of programming language :)
Java
Oracle
Linux
hmm, i guess that is all what i have in mind now :D
great idea (Y)
1- Linux-based development (makefiles .. scripts ..bla bla)
2- Testing techniques, QA in general .. how it works ..bla bla
3- AI :S
4- some POPULAR dynamic language (Ruby,python, perl or even php)
5- Computer Graphics
1:- Business
2:- how to use DS ( data structure )
3:- SW. Eng ( Practically )
4:- Some sort of soft skills
5:- Useful Math.
Extremely useful post for us (students). Thanks everyone!
Your post idea is extermly great (Y)
I wish I didn't learn any programming languages C#, JAVA, C++, etc..
What I wish I did
1- Software engineering especialy Advanced Software Architecture, deployment, versioning, testing....
2- OOP Design and Analysis
3- Algorithms and Advanced algorithms
4- Core OS programming
5- Soft skills (Communications skills, presentation skills)
6- I hate AI so I didn't mention it!!
First: thxs rou2aa 4 ur Nice post
Second
--programming language :-
How to Optimize My code
c++,C#,How to use DS
Java JDK and now learning MOre about Java isALLAH
--Morrre things :-
HOw can i deal with a pic(Image Processing),OS && Multi-threading,
,Compiler,Physics:),AI,UML,Security,SW Eng.
--Soft skills
(e.g. Time management, Communication...),English Course
--ASP.NET (Most Of Company now Wonna Web Developer)try to know more about that
-Design Pattern
-I read more in Psychology and Religion (Islamic Studies)
If i remmeber ||learn anything else i`ll push to ur stack :)
Ordered by interest:
1- Advanced Algorithms
2- Soft Skills
3- Optimization Techniques
4- How to do research (as an elective course)
5- Practical Networks Labs
6- Advanced Problem Solving
7- Software Testing
8- Real-life AI applications
Thnx ya Roaa :) kol sana wenty tayeba
1- Open Source Development principles..
2- more OS internals
3- More AI techniques in practical applications
4- Software Design and Architecture (more practical than theories)
5- Computer Graphics
6- Discrete Math, Computational Algebra.
7- More Algorithms & Dynamic programming...
I would really like it if the college became 5 years, not like Engineering but instead, 3 years of what we already study + emphasizing on the previous points, then 1 year of practical training (it'll actually be 2 semesters not a full year) in a company that is contracted to make us work on a specific set of technologies and methodologies...
then back for the final year and GP...
I believe learning modern technologies is not really the goal of a computer science faculty.. Teaching the basics and keeping us "thinking" all the time is the main goal..
Thanks everybody for your comments..
(@Amr : wenta tayeb :))
Here's my list:
1- Design Patterns
2- Testing
3- More C++
4- More about OS
5- Robotics
6- Research Principles
7- More Mathematics
8- Problem Solving
9- Graphics
10-Business Writing (writing reports, formal mails.. etc)
Waiting for more comments..
i wish if i have learned only one thing, software engineering as it's know in any decent university in usa
Excellent idea! Here are mine (some are repeats of what others said):
5 Things I wish I learned well (or taught well in college)
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- Artificial intelligence
- Statistics
- Advanced Discrete maths
- Programming Language Theory
- Parallel Computing/Scalability
5 Things I learned on my own, to discover later they're very valuable
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- Lisp
- Linux
- Design Patterns
- Virtual Machines (.net CLR, JVM)
- Presentation, negotiation...etc (I refuse to call them soft skills!)
Some things I'm really thankful I learned in college
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- Computer Architecture
- Assembly language
- PROLOG
- Algorithmics/ Algorithm Analysis
- Data Structures
- Operating System
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Thanks in advance
abdrazek_m@yah.....
thanx 4 this posts i really take an idea about wut i should learn as a student in fcis ... really thanx :)
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